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senator lindsey graham and senator talked about obama not try him as an enemy combatants. it was said to see him go, he was a fine figure and a state senator, isn't it? >> al a high state legislature is much more sophisticated than we saw here today. >> let's talk about lindsey graham. sang the government should have left dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combat and, at least on the table as a possibility. >> it is not permissible under the law. you cannot treat an american citizen who is accused of committing an american crime against mostly american citizens in boston as an enemy combatants. it would turn our country -- >> it has never happened before. >> into martial law. the supreme court struck that down and american citizens were charged with crimes and this fellow is being charged with an ordinary crime that anybody could be charged with the team made a bomb to kill his mother-in-law. it does not require any allegation of terrorism. the idea we can deny and trial by jury, speedy trial, all of the things in the constitution and the bill of rights provides would turn our
senator lindsey graham and senator talked about obama not try him as an enemy combatants. it was said to see him go, he was a fine figure and a state senator, isn't it? >> al a high state legislature is much more sophisticated than we saw here today. >> let's talk about lindsey graham. sang the government should have left dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combat and, at least on the table as a possibility. >> it is not permissible under the law. you cannot treat an american...
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graham. >> the only thing you need to know about lindsey gram right now is that he's running for re-election. even though he knows better, even though he knows that dzhokhar, for example, is not going to be tried as an enemy combatant, even though he knows his allegations against the president are ridiculous, it's a way of him scoring political points. i'll say, you know, i don't think there's anything wrong as you were pointing out asking questions about, okay, did the fbi follow the right course here? >> the investigation. >> absolutely. but when you go for this nakedly political point instead, you actually undermine those sorts of honest investigations. because it turns it into political football rather than a real inquiry into what happened and if there was anything we could do or anything we could learn. >> i think, joan, there is a legitimate questions one could raise, whether i agree with them or you agree with them or not. >> right. >> but to rev up benghazi, too? it is clear they're trying to get all kind of old political points, mixing in with new questions. because what benghazi a
graham. >> the only thing you need to know about lindsey gram right now is that he's running for re-election. even though he knows better, even though he knows that dzhokhar, for example, is not going to be tried as an enemy combatant, even though he knows his allegations against the president are ridiculous, it's a way of him scoring political points. i'll say, you know, i don't think there's anything wrong as you were pointing out asking questions about, okay, did the fbi follow the...
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. >> lindsey graham is doing a whole bunch of talk radio this morning. it's clear to me, we know why they probably booked all these interviews. because they're worried that this is where the immigration issue could percolate where all of the sudden the connection to boston happens. >> i think it also shows that compared to the last time around in '06 and '07 the republicans who were for this type of legislation are a lot more active in trying to engage with the conservative critics. >> dan, that does seem to be a huge difference before, they would lament maybe to you in interviews. but they wouldn't actively try to fix this. >> yeah. you know, they're pushing forward in a way they weren't before. they're much more confident about the reasons why they're doing this. and they're -- they feel much less defensive about it when they're being criticized by their own people. >> at the press conference amongst the most eloquent were marco rubio. the marco rubio. >> you were there. richard. this was the most fascinating -- >> it's a definition of kumbaya. >> it g
. >> lindsey graham is doing a whole bunch of talk radio this morning. it's clear to me, we know why they probably booked all these interviews. because they're worried that this is where the immigration issue could percolate where all of the sudden the connection to boston happens. >> i think it also shows that compared to the last time around in '06 and '07 the republicans who were for this type of legislation are a lot more active in trying to engage with the conservative critics....
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>> two authors of that immigration bill, chuck schumer and lindsey graham are next. aaah! aaaaah! theres a guy on the window! do something, dad! aaaah! aaaah! what is happening? they're rate suckers. their bad driving makes car insurance more expensive for the rest of us. good thing there's snapshot from progressive. snap it in and get a discount based on your good driving. stop paying for rate suckers. try snapshot free at progressive.com. i'm just red carpets and big spectacles. but that's only the beginning. i have more than one red carpet. i like all sorts of spectacles. from the grandiose to the impromptu... to the completely unexpected. and the most epic thrill ride this city has ever faced. transformers the ride 3d. los angeles. endlessly entertaining. start exploring at discoverlosangeles.com >>> i am joined by senator chuck schumer, democrat from new york. and south carolina republican senator lindsey graham with whom we just mentioned cooperated and came up recently with a bipartisan immigration bill. i want to get to that as well the effect of boston on that discussion.
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i know he's got his view of senator lindsey graham's comments. i welcome judge napolitano, senior judicial analyst for fox news. judge, do we designate this guy enemy combatant or treat him through the criminal justice system? >> well, first good evening, governor. it's a pleasure to be on your show. thanks for having me. senator graham is well known to many of us at fox. he's also a friend of mine. no one can question his motivation. but we'll start with a couple of basics. the first is that the constitution is the supreme law of the land. how do we know that? it says it in the constitution. the second is everybody who works for the government -- you did this when you were the governor of a, i di arkansas, in i was a superior court of new jersey -- takes an oath. the proper procedure here is to prosecute the surviving of the two brothers in the federal district court, probably not in boston. i don't know how he can get a fair trial in boston, but in some federal district court somewhere that has jurisdiction over these crimes. remember, tim mcve
i know he's got his view of senator lindsey graham's comments. i welcome judge napolitano, senior judicial analyst for fox news. judge, do we designate this guy enemy combatant or treat him through the criminal justice system? >> well, first good evening, governor. it's a pleasure to be on your show. thanks for having me. senator graham is well known to many of us at fox. he's also a friend of mine. no one can question his motivation. but we'll start with a couple of basics. the first is...
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>> two authors of that immigration bill, chuck schumer and lindsey graham are next. a simple question: how old is the oldest person you've known? we gave people a sticker and had them show us. we learned a lot of us have known someone who's lived well into their 90s. and that's a great thing. but even though we're living longer, one thing that hasn't changed: the official retirement age. ♪ the question is how do you make sure you have the money you need to enjoy all of these years. ♪ to enjoy all of these years. at od, whatever business you're in, that's the business we're in. with premium service like one of the best on-time delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. od. helping the world keep promises. ♪ there is no mass-produced there is no mass-produced human. every signature is unique and every fingerprint unrepeatable. and there is one store that recognizes it: the sleep number store. the only place in the world you'll find the extraordinarily comfortable sleep number bed: the only bed with dual-ai
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graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights time to quote remain silent and then a follow up by saying if captured i hope administration will least consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos come bag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on this punk to save more lives. i wouldn't and no one else that actually respects the rule of law and the constitution because guess what torture is illegal and it's never brought proper intel now it may not seem like that big of a deal to read a terrorist suspect his rights but ponder what glenn greenwald has said he said quote when you cheer for the erosion of your heart and rights you're cheering for the erosion of your own which is what we're already seen a mindset that has already allowed these rights to be taken for granted and compromised two years ago obama bypass congress to roll back miranda righ
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as some republican senators includes lindsey graham called for. senator graham challenged them saying the decision they made premature. let's listen. >> here's my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years, civilian and military, i strongly support the concept that no criminal defendant should ever be required to incriminate themselves while they're in custody of the government. every nation at war should have the ability to defend themselves by gathering intelligence. these are not mutually exclusive concepts. i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam defined as the taliban, al qaeda, and affiliated groups. the question i have regarding this case, is there any association between these two individuals and the groups i just named, to allow enemy combatant status to be conferred upon the suspect in boston? >> let's drill down on the legal status of the boston bombing suspect. kendall coffey. the great jonathan turley, here in washington. thank you for this. can they decide later if a piece of evidence shows up a week from now, that sho
as some republican senators includes lindsey graham called for. senator graham challenged them saying the decision they made premature. let's listen. >> here's my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years, civilian and military, i strongly support the concept that no criminal defendant should ever be required to incriminate themselves while they're in custody of the government. every nation at war should have the ability to defend themselves by gathering intelligence. these are not mutually...
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it certainly sounds like it. >> that phrase, dropped the ball, is exactly what we heard lindsey graham talk about on one of the talk shows today. he said he wanted to know how the fbi or the system dropped the ball when they didn't have an interview with tsarnaev when he came back into the united states. a lot of the lawmakers were saying we don't want to monday morning quarterback this. we are not necessarily putting the blame on the fbi. they said they also have some tough questions that they would like to hear some answers to based on this unfolding investigation. don? >> emily snmith, thank you very much. worshippers filled the largest church reflecting on violence that began nearly a week ago. members of law enforcement took part in the service at the cathedral of the holy cross. four large photos of the people killed were prominently displayed behind four lit candles. cardinal o'malley said, in the midst of the darkness of this tragedy, we turn to the light of jesus christ. ♪ ♪ ♪ with every step i take, let this be my solemn vow ♪ >> reporter: elsewhere, a group of christ
it certainly sounds like it. >> that phrase, dropped the ball, is exactly what we heard lindsey graham talk about on one of the talk shows today. he said he wanted to know how the fbi or the system dropped the ball when they didn't have an interview with tsarnaev when he came back into the united states. a lot of the lawmakers were saying we don't want to monday morning quarterback this. we are not necessarily putting the blame on the fbi. they said they also have some tough questions...
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graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights telling him to quote remain silent and then followed up by saying if captured i hope administration will least consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos scumbag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on this punk to save more lives. i wouldn't and no one else that actually respects the rule of law and the constitution because guess what torture is illegal and it's never brought proper intel now it may not seem like that big of a deal to read a terrorist suspect his rights but ponder what glenn greenwald has said he said quote when you cheer for the erosion of joe hart rights you're cheering for the erosion of your own which is what we're already seen a mindset that has already allowed these rights to be taken for granted and compromised two years ago obama bypass congress to roll back miranda ri
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. >> michael: even after that announcement, republican senator, lindsey graham just wouldn't let it go and held a press conference to criticize the decision. >> the ability to talk to individuals who may know about terrorist organizations plotting our future demise is a long-held concept under the law of war. i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option if the evidence warrants to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. >> michael: despite his protestations, tsarnaev will be tried as a civilian. the charges against him are very serious. the u.s. attorney charged him with, quote . . . the complaint cites video evidence showing, dzhokhar tsarnaev placing a backpack at the scene and then crossing the street with a cell phone in his left hand. he surveyed the crowd including the 8-year-old boy who died. he takes a picture of the scene holds the phone to his ear, and 18 seconds later the bomb went off. joining us now president and founder of the group terror free tomorrow and the author of the book "terrorists in love." thank for joining us here in "the war room,
. >> michael: even after that announcement, republican senator, lindsey graham just wouldn't let it go and held a press conference to criticize the decision. >> the ability to talk to individuals who may know about terrorist organizations plotting our future demise is a long-held concept under the law of war. i'm asking this administration to leave on the table the option if the evidence warrants to designate this individual as an enemy combatant. >> michael: despite his...
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i know john mccain, lindsey graham, couple of others are pushing for that. you need a little more evidence to know whether you can do that. you really have to know, did he become part of the terrorist war against the united states? these e-mails and texts that they're discovering kind of make a pretty good case that he was part of a group that's at war against the united states. if you can make that case, then you could try him in a military court. you could try him in guantanamo bay and not have the spectacle of this trial having to take place in boston or some other place where they would change venue. >> are you sure about military court? as i understand, it was for noncitizens and for foreign nationals. >> if a citizen becomes part of the war effort against the united states -- let's take an example like this. let's take the second world war. let's say an american citizen went to germany and joined the nazi army and invaded the united states, we could try that person in a military court. now, the nature of this war is so ambiguous, you're going to get a
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. >> it's excruciating on somebody like rubio, on somebody like lindsey graham up for re-election. on somebody even like john mccain and jeff blake. so it's not impossible for this to occur, but it got a whole lot more difficult. >> joy, here's how the "national review" captured rubio's visit there. "it was striking to see how much he is personally admired by the colorful conservative pundits who broadcast on local a.m. stations, and by the biggest syndicated names like limbaugh. they still believe, without a doubt, that he's a top contender for the republican presidential nomination in 2016 and they love that he's already a national force. but when it comes to immigration, they're not buying it." >> yeah. >> why? >> well, because, you know, at the end of the day the o's at the end of rubio's first and last names are quite valuable to the republican party as an avatar for bringing in more hispanic voters. the ideas he's saying are not useful. it's been kind of pathetic to see marco rubio, supposedly this towering figure, latino ronald reagan of the republican party going hat in han
. >> it's excruciating on somebody like rubio, on somebody like lindsey graham up for re-election. on somebody even like john mccain and jeff blake. so it's not impossible for this to occur, but it got a whole lot more difficult. >> joy, here's how the "national review" captured rubio's visit there. "it was striking to see how much he is personally admired by the colorful conservative pundits who broadcast on local a.m. stations, and by the biggest syndicated names...
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i don't know why lindsey graham hates the constitution as much as he does, but he does. but i think getting back to last week, i was deeply worried. and i think folks on my staff at ctr were deeply worried this was going to go in a very different way than it ended up going. there was a lot of discussion around miranda, a lot of discussion about enemy combatants. and i think given the heinous crime that happened in boston, that folks like lindsey graham, and frankly the political sideshow that developed around the calls for this and calls for that really did not do justice to the people that are suffering in boston right now. the best solution is the constitution. the constitution is not the enemy. it's the people that commit these crimes. and the last piece is it's deeply important the trial and the mechanism we have is full and fair. that's the only way that we can as a society get out of this. >> i don't want to give this more credence than it deserves. but one follow-up question. can you just dub someone an enemy combatant? >> george bush did. >> that's the question,
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what some advocates, republicans, are saying such as lindsey graham are -- we understand, they say, we understand he's going to be tried in civilian court but start the questioning -- treat him as an enemy combatant under the law of war. question him by intelligence people. get all the intel you can. then turn him over to the civ civilian authorities. that's what they advocate. that's not going to happen, the administration has decided. he'll be questioned first by this special group set up in the last couple of years in terror cases called the high value detainee interrogation group, fbi cia, dod. they don't have a long time to do that, probably no more than a day or so. then he'll be begin his miranda warning and we'll see if he continues to talk. in other terrorism cases, surprisingly, these people do keep talking. >> mike rogers, chairman, do you have a view how he should be treated in the criminal justice system? >> he's a citizen of the united states. i think that brings all of those protections of the u.s. constitution under the public safety exception, however, i do believe tha
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lindsey graham and others will say it wasn't enough. not necessarily just 48 hours of vergation, but days and days if not weeks and weeks. that will be a sung for futubje future debate. just ahead, a check of other stories we're following, including serious delays at major airports across the country with fewer people in control towers. we're in store for a lot of waiting. back in a moment with that and all of the late developments out of boston. thank you orville and wilbur... ...amelia... neil and buzz: for teaching us that you can't create the future... by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand of us investing billions... in everything from the best experiences below... to the finest comforts above. we're not simply saluting history... we're making it. >>> welcome back to on a special "newsroom," live from boston. all on the latest on the investigation in a moment. other top stories making news on this tuesday. the tsa has postponed a controversial rule a
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here's what's interesting -- both lindsey graham and senator schumer who were on the show are members of that gang of eight that came up with this bipartisan reform for the immigration system. we've now heard opponents of the immigration system saying this is another reason why we need to take a look at what's going on here. you get the feel the slow walk is beginning. boert senator graham and senator schumer make the case this is the time for emigration reform. 40% i believe is the figure of the folks who are in the united states without documentation have overstayed their visas and they say that within their legislation is a mechanism and a system through which that will no longer be the case, that when people are in this country, you will know who they are. now let's remember that one of these young men -- the yucker brother was a u.s. citizen, the other was a permanent resident. i don't know how far that kind of system would reach out. but nonetheless, they think that now is the precise time to have immigration reform, not a time to slow it down. >> candy crowley, thanks so much,
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when you look apartment lindsey graham, graham is one of the perfect pettily endangered republican challengers. up in 2014. maybe he is doing immigration. graham had this line that i think summed it up. i will paraphrase it. lindsey graham profiled the "new york times" and talked a little bit how he strays from the republican reservation but will pick his spots to really go after the administration like on chuck haguel and benghazi. he said basically for me, whenever you are attacking the president, whenever you are attacking obama, it is good politics. he is very mindful, i think, of the base and of not always being seen as a traitor. rob portman made news a month ago because he supports gay marriage. one of two republicans in the senate. he was the first one to say he supports gay marriage. he's already hearing threats of a 2016 primary challenge. maybe he is overextended, too. lori, you were saying that's maybe a big part of what is going on in the senate now. >> yes. in a perfect world they wouldn't have to pick between these social issues facing them all -- you know, one year or two years
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senator lindsey graham of south carolina has said tsarnaev should be questioned by u.s. intelligence agencies. and then put on trial before a military commission, perhaps even at guantanamo bay in cuba. the obama administration has insisted that criminal trials can be just as effective, and tsarnaev is an american citizen, which could complicate putting him in a military court. the actual filing of criminal charges. that could come quite quickly. even within the next day or so. and the -- he would then appear before a federal magistrate. if he is not well enough to leave the hospital, that hearing could actually be done in his hospital room. alex? >> okay, pete, so what point does he get an attorney? >> well, he gets a lawyer during this questioning process for the next 48 hours. under this rule. he has no right to the miranda right. once he exercises his miranda warning, though -- once he exercises his miranda rights he has the choice to stop answering questions. but what the justice department says is, most people in these cases, surprisingly enough, continue to talk a
senator lindsey graham of south carolina has said tsarnaev should be questioned by u.s. intelligence agencies. and then put on trial before a military commission, perhaps even at guantanamo bay in cuba. the obama administration has insisted that criminal trials can be just as effective, and tsarnaev is an american citizen, which could complicate putting him in a military court. the actual filing of criminal charges. that could come quite quickly. even within the next day or so. and the -- he...
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four our republican senators joined in lindsey graham's call to label him as an enemy combatant. how likely is it at this point that's going to happen? >> i think it's still a call that's yet to be made. you certainly had the democratic senators, some of them will say no. they will follow the same line of thinking that the aclu does. certainly in the sunday show this morning, senator dick durbin said he is opposed to having the trial in the military court. so i think this will play out largely on partisan lines. >> dave, you've done some reporting on this, and it sounds as if, again, there's a d distinction between labeled enemy combatant in terms of being question ed, but at this point it does not seem as it he can be tried as an enemy combatant? >> no. the starting question, enemy combatant for whom? the resolution in 2001 said that, oun enemy combatants are members of organizations that carried out the 9/11 attacks. we're not at war with chechnya, any organization connected to these terrorists so far, we're simply not at war with them. we should be in contact with russians wha
four our republican senators joined in lindsey graham's call to label him as an enemy combatant. how likely is it at this point that's going to happen? >> i think it's still a call that's yet to be made. you certainly had the democratic senators, some of them will say no. they will follow the same line of thinking that the aclu does. certainly in the sunday show this morning, senator dick durbin said he is opposed to having the trial in the military court. so i think this will play out...
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graham and others -- >> martha: do you expect this administration to do that? >> no, because they've stated they will not hold american citizens indefinitely, even though -- >> martha: that's established under the supreme court -- >> the defense authorization act of 2012, they can. there have been statements by the president that they wouldn't enforce it. but if they wanted to enforce it, they could at this point. this will become a subject of debate. what's best for america? hold them forever or try them? let's see what happens. >> martha: as always, great to have you. >> good to see you. >> martha: bill? >> bill: martha, there is still -- they're still collecting evidence on boylston street. we saw the haz-mat suits on a short time ago. that process still continues. boston shows its resilience. the residence come out cheering the efforts of police and the investigation. as that continues, too, the applause from last night will be memorable in this city's long and historic tradition. [ cheers and applause ] >> usa! usa! usa ! >> bill: all right. welcome back h
graham and others -- >> martha: do you expect this administration to do that? >> no, because they've stated they will not hold american citizens indefinitely, even though -- >> martha: that's established under the supreme court -- >> the defense authorization act of 2012, they can. there have been statements by the president that they wouldn't enforce it. but if they wanted to enforce it, they could at this point. this will become a subject of debate. what's best for...
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so i don't really see lindsey graham's proposal as all that differentwhat's going on now. he seems to suggest a longer process of questioning him, but the obama administration has also committed to some period of questioning. now, this all assumes that he's willing to answer questions. can he always samp simply say it answering questions and there is no way either under enemy combatant rules or in the criminal justice system to force someone to answer questions who doesn't want to answer them. >> the argument i guess is under this limited questioning period before he is formally advised of his miranda rights, he has and right to an attorney, doesn't have to answer any questions. there has been some suggestion that can only last maybe 48 hours or so if he's formally named an enemy combatant, that would go on for days if not weeks. i guess that's the distinction. >> it's the length of time. right. the enemy combatant, if that designation were made, could go on for weeks or even months. but i just think it's important to emphasize that the obama administration has absolutely
so i don't really see lindsey graham's proposal as all that differentwhat's going on now. he seems to suggest a longer process of questioning him, but the obama administration has also committed to some period of questioning. now, this all assumes that he's willing to answer questions. can he always samp simply say it answering questions and there is no way either under enemy combatant rules or in the criminal justice system to force someone to answer questions who doesn't want to answer them....
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immigration reform lindsey graham. >> north korea indiana. and boston airthon, lindsey graham? jesus. >> i have a feeling they just book him week after week after week, and the bookers were too lazy to say, we have breaking news -- >> bill: they probably up on the wall they have -- every sunday they have lindsey graham booked already. they don't care. that's the first question why? why? okay. and the second question is what does the freaking know about it right? i mean wtf lindsey graham let the justice department and the fbi and the authorities do their job, stay the you know what out of it. stay out of it. i mean just stfu lindsey graham. he and john mccain of course his butt boy -- or which one is which i don't know. and pete king same thing they want to turn this into a political football. they want to turn this act of terror and heroic work by our law enforcement officers into political football, and it pisses me off, and it should piss everyone else off. they should just shut up. 866-55-press, don't you think? >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ that viewers
immigration reform lindsey graham. >> north korea indiana. and boston airthon, lindsey graham? jesus. >> i have a feeling they just book him week after week after week, and the bookers were too lazy to say, we have breaking news -- >> bill: they probably up on the wall they have -- every sunday they have lindsey graham booked already. they don't care. that's the first question why? why? okay. and the second question is what does the freaking know about it right? i mean wtf...
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i know john mccain, lindsey graham, couple of others are pushing for that. you need a little more evidence to know whether you can do that. you really have to know, did he become part of the terrorist war against the united states? these e-mails and texts that they're discovering kind of make a pretty good case that he was part of a group that's at war against the united states. if you can make that case, then you could try him in a military court. you could try him in guantanamo bay and not have the spectacle of this trial having to take place in boston or some other place where they would change venue. >> are you sure about military court? as i understand, it was for noncitizens and for foreign nationals. >> if a citizen becomes part of the war effort against the united states -- let's take an example like this. let's take the second world war. let's say an american citizen went to germany and joined the nazi army and invaded the united states, we could try that person in a military court. now, the nature of this war is so ambiguous, you're going to get a
i know john mccain, lindsey graham, couple of others are pushing for that. you need a little more evidence to know whether you can do that. you really have to know, did he become part of the terrorist war against the united states? these e-mails and texts that they're discovering kind of make a pretty good case that he was part of a group that's at war against the united states. if you can make that case, then you could try him in a military court. you could try him in guantanamo bay and not...
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here's senator lindsey graham trying to, as usual, tying it to benghazi to make the point the administration is letting its guard down. he's always talking about benghazi. now he's tying it to boston with benghazi. this has become almost an m.o. with him. let's watch. >> something's not right here. i don't want to be judgmental, but i want to make sure that we're safe. >> yeah. >> between benghazi and boston, we're going backward in national security. this administration is letting -- letting its guard down. and it is beginning to show. >> well, more aggressive and more partisan still is republican congressman tom cotton today. he went further. he compared the record of the last four years under president obama negatively to that of president george w. bush. interesting choice there. let's listen to his conclusion. >> in barely four years in office, five jihadists have reached their targets in the united states under barack obama. the boston marathon bomber, the underwear bomber, the times square bomber, the ft. hood shooter, and in my own state, the little rock recruiting office shooter. in
here's senator lindsey graham trying to, as usual, tying it to benghazi to make the point the administration is letting its guard down. he's always talking about benghazi. now he's tying it to boston with benghazi. this has become almost an m.o. with him. let's watch. >> something's not right here. i don't want to be judgmental, but i want to make sure that we're safe. >> yeah. >> between benghazi and boston, we're going backward in national security. this administration is...
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today on cnn's "state of the union" senator lindsey graham said there were plenty of clues that tsarnaev had been radicalized. >> the ball was dropped in one of two ways. the fbi missed a lot of things, is one potential answer. or our laws do not allow the fbi to follow-up in a sound, solid way. there was a lot to be learned from this guy. he was on websites talking about killing americans. he went overseas, as chuck indicated. he was clearly talking about radical ideas. he was visiting radical areas. it's people like this that you don't want to let out of your sight. and this was a mistake. i don't know if our laws are insufficient or the fbi failed, but we're at war with radical islamists and we need to up our game. >> the chairman of the house homeland security committee is also weighing in on this topic. he told our candy crowley that tamerlan tsarnaev received what he called training while in russia and he thinks tsarnaev made more than one trip to the region. we are learning more about the suspects from the russian republic of dagestan where they once lived. cnn can exclusively rev
today on cnn's "state of the union" senator lindsey graham said there were plenty of clues that tsarnaev had been radicalized. >> the ball was dropped in one of two ways. the fbi missed a lot of things, is one potential answer. or our laws do not allow the fbi to follow-up in a sound, solid way. there was a lot to be learned from this guy. he was on websites talking about killing americans. he went overseas, as chuck indicated. he was clearly talking about radical ideas. he was...
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some of the criticism is being let by lindsey graham of south carolina and john mccain. here was senator graham just a short time ago this morning. >> this man in my view should be designated as a potential enemy combatant and we should be allowed to question him for intelligence gathering purposes to find out about future attacks and terrorist organizations that may exist that he has knowledge of, and that evidence cannot be used against him in trial. that evidence is used to protect us as a nation. >> but a suspect like this one in a case like this can't be tried in a military tribunal because of what's called the national defense authorization act of 2012, which basically says if you're an american citizen, to be tried as an enemy combatant, there has to at least be some tangible links that connect you to enemy forces. among them, al qaeda. the next question, though, is if he should be treated as a standard criminal defendant, or if some of the rights should be different given the accusations of terror against this man, dzhokhar tsarnaev. and that relates to in mirand
some of the criticism is being let by lindsey graham of south carolina and john mccain. here was senator graham just a short time ago this morning. >> this man in my view should be designated as a potential enemy combatant and we should be allowed to question him for intelligence gathering purposes to find out about future attacks and terrorist organizations that may exist that he has knowledge of, and that evidence cannot be used against him in trial. that evidence is used to protect us...
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on lindsey graham gerald hunter says, once again, lindsey graham shows his dumb-ass face on fox news. i think the boston police and the fbi should come to south carolina and get this dumb ass, and make mark sanford and tim scott as a bonus. how can the people of south carolina be so stupid as to elect these idiots? well, the good news it looks like they may not reelect, mark sanford. that's a plus. [♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, and welcome, welcome to the "full court press" here on current tv this morning, wednesday april 24th. thanks for joining us, good to see you today, we have got lots to talk about, lots of news happening here in our nation's capitol, around the country and the globe, we'll bring you up to date on all of it no matter what it is we're there. we have got it covered. and we'll give you a chance to get involved in the conversation and tell us what it means to you and your family. 866-55-press is the toll-free number if you want to join us by phone. 866-557-7377. or you can join us on twitter, @bhshow, just make sure that your twitter account has not be
on lindsey graham gerald hunter says, once again, lindsey graham shows his dumb-ass face on fox news. i think the boston police and the fbi should come to south carolina and get this dumb ass, and make mark sanford and tim scott as a bonus. how can the people of south carolina be so stupid as to elect these idiots? well, the good news it looks like they may not reelect, mark sanford. that's a plus. [♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, and welcome, welcome to the "full court...
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meanwhile, senators john mccain and lindsey graham say the injured suspect is not, not entitled to his miranda rights. they want dzhokhar tsarnaev to be treated as an enemy combatant. and the transit police officer injured in a shootout with the suspects remains in critical condition. don't forget about this hero. officer richard donahue being treated for a single gunshot wound. meanwhile, authorities are still looking at another disaster further south, way further south, trying to get to the bottom of what caused that blast at the fertilizer plant in west, texas. fox'sdom nick is there with the -- dominic is there with 14 dead. >> 200 injured. we understand from the authorities that 14 bodies have been recovered. they do not expect that number to rise much, if at all. 13 critically ill in hospital. it's unclear now on day three after the disaster how many of those will pull through. they think most of them actually will. the bodies of those that have been recovered from the site here in west have been taken to dallas for forensics. those that were most closest to the epicenter of the
meanwhile, senators john mccain and lindsey graham say the injured suspect is not, not entitled to his miranda rights. they want dzhokhar tsarnaev to be treated as an enemy combatant. and the transit police officer injured in a shootout with the suspects remains in critical condition. don't forget about this hero. officer richard donahue being treated for a single gunshot wound. meanwhile, authorities are still looking at another disaster further south, way further south, trying to get to the...
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. >> republican senator lindsey graham, another member of the gang of eight, said the attacks should make congress act quicker, not slower when it comes to immigration. >>> to west, texas where invest investigators have located the spot where the explosion occurred but do not yet know what triggered it. >> we have located the seat of the explosion which is important because as we conduct our investigation we'll be working from an outer perimeter inward from the least damage to the greatest damage so knowing the seat of that explosion is important. >> officials say there is no evidence of criminal activity in last wednesday's massive explosion. explosion killed 14 people and injured 200 others. at least ten of the dead were first responders. >>> over the weekend many residents got their first chance to see the damage to their homes. >> my daughter's house is caved in, but we'd at least like to be able to get in and start cleaning up and salvaging what can be salvaged. >> well, the images are devastating and numbers tough to imagine, 189 people are dead in china's sichuan province. 1.5
. >> republican senator lindsey graham, another member of the gang of eight, said the attacks should make congress act quicker, not slower when it comes to immigration. >>> to west, texas where invest investigators have located the spot where the explosion occurred but do not yet know what triggered it. >> we have located the seat of the explosion which is important because as we conduct our investigation we'll be working from an outer perimeter inward from the least damage...
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senator lindsey graham who wanted to treat him like it ought to be combatant he is being treated as if he has been treated as an american citizen would go to court and he is going to as if he has had his he has had his miranda rights read to him so i think that argument that argument but settled for the most part people can continue to debate whether this man should go to get no or whether he should whether he should have been treated as an enemy combatant but at this point argument is a dead in the water absolutely kerrick when blogger at boston dot com he's also a contributor at reason magazine and the we can editor at media i thank you so much for joining us. now let's focus on how the media covered the boston marathon bombing and the manhunt that followed a lot of news coverage with a series of mistakes including the misidentification of innocent people as the suspects for more on the mainstream media missteps the residents lori her feminist . the mainstream media sucks to epic proportions well covering the boston marathon bombing first you had the failure of c.n.n. reporting it wa
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two prominent senators john mccain and lindsey graham say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. he could be questioned without a lawyer. even though he was a u.s. citizen arrested on u.s. soil. what do you think about that? >> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow that way. i don't think this is any way should be relegated -- not relegated, but elevated to something on enemy combatant status. this is a crime against the people of the united states. it can be handled that way. i have every confidence in the justice department and state authorities in massachusetts to do that. >> douglas jones, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my
two prominent senators john mccain and lindsey graham say he should be treated as an enemy combatant. he could be questioned without a lawyer. even though he was a u.s. citizen arrested on u.s. soil. what do you think about that? >> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh...
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graham, kelly ayotte, and new york's representative, peter king. let's give you a accepts where this is right now. so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li likely that he hasn't even been questioned yet because of his state, his serious condition, that this may not matter. he may have been read his miranda rights by a judge as early as tomorrow. the republican lawmakers, of course, say the public safety exception doesn't go far enough, that he should be treated as an enemy combatant. we do not want this suspect to have the right to remain silent. here is a little bit more about what they said. i'll put this graphic up on the screen. this is from a statement released by those republican lawmakers who say we have c
graham, kelly ayotte, and new york's representative, peter king. let's give you a accepts where this is right now. so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li...
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i think gram gram overstated the argument, you're right. -- lindsey graham. you're a terrorist attempting to be member of a sleeper cell it is unclear you will necessarily surface as this proposed new law requires you to do and make yourself known to authorities. on the other hand here is the ironic thing. in a way the bill could make us safer from this perspective. the two brothers came here when their family came here. their family came here look like they had other families already here. the parents of two the brothers had a brother, their uncle already here in the united states and they therefore appear like they might have come here, they got extra points for already having relatives here in the united states. this is called chained migration. if you got a family member here, whether it is an uncle, an aunt, father, mother, grandfather, cousin, whatever, you get a little bit extra oomph in the line in order to get here and the new law being proposed by the "gang of eight" would dial back immigration based on family considerations and dial up immigration
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>> let me give a shout-out to marco rubio and john mccain and lindsey graham who aren't backing down. some free advice to the republican party. republican party lost the hispanic vote. if there isn't some effort to reach out for a lot of the people who live in this country you can kiss off any chance, bill, for any foreseeable future -- >> chris: yeah, bill. [ laughter ] let me say on bill's defense he is pro-immigration reform. >> i'm more skeptical of it now than i was six or seven months ago for this reason, with all due respect. let's have serious public policy arguments about this and begin asking how this man who has been reported to the f.b.i. in 2011, went abroad six or seven months came back and had russian passport. and no problem at all. maybe someone should look at that and look at the border security before we move ahead with 880-page immigration bill. >> the bill is based on border security. >> would it help -- >> we should ask these questions and we should maybe have more detailed questions asked for people who come from certain countries, yes. >> we agree on that. >> c
>> let me give a shout-out to marco rubio and john mccain and lindsey graham who aren't backing down. some free advice to the republican party. republican party lost the hispanic vote. if there isn't some effort to reach out for a lot of the people who live in this country you can kiss off any chance, bill, for any foreseeable future -- >> chris: yeah, bill. [ laughter ] let me say on bill's defense he is pro-immigration reform. >> i'm more skeptical of it now than i was six...
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you have senator lindsey graham and senator john mccain of that gang of eight stepping forward on a pushback from the rhetoric we heard from some of the republican senator twhos are suggesting it should slow things down. so i think the momentum is there to really keep us moving. >> all right. we have to leave it there. karen, we look forward to hearing more from you on your show. thanks so much. >>> the officer who arrested dzhokhar tsarnaev say the whole ordeal still hasn't sunken in yet t. manhunt culminated in a showdown in the back yard of a watertown home where he was hiding in a covered boat. with the help of powerful infrared images, officers say tsarnaev did shoot at him. once they arrested him, they described him as in and out of consciousness and compliance. could that boat have been rigged with explosives? >> we just want to get him into custody and have this situation come to an end, for us, for the families, for the city. it noded to end. -- it needed to end. >> federal officials charged tsarnaev yesterday with using weapons of mass destruction. he remains in a boston hospital.
you have senator lindsey graham and senator john mccain of that gang of eight stepping forward on a pushback from the rhetoric we heard from some of the republican senator twhos are suggesting it should slow things down. so i think the momentum is there to really keep us moving. >> all right. we have to leave it there. karen, we look forward to hearing more from you on your show. thanks so much. >>> the officer who arrested dzhokhar tsarnaev say the whole ordeal still hasn't...
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. >> but senator lindsey graham said the fbi claimed to know nothing, yes, nothing about the trip and tonight the fbi and homeland security briefing lawmakers. congressman jason chase is on the house homeland security committee. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> can you clarify or do you know whether or not he mentioned going out of the united states? there's some confusion over what senator lindsay graham said and what the secretary said. >> i don't know what the secretary means when she said ping. what is clear to me from my past experience, the united states of america has no viable entry-exit system. we aren't able to track people as they leave and depart the country and when they come back in the country. sometimes we can see them and have visibility when they are traveling via air burke as we are seeing on the southwest border and up in canada, that's a real problem. when she says ping, against what? that's the key question. >> it must be when he boarded the plane using the passport. must be some manifest i would assume there's some database at that point b
. >> but senator lindsey graham said the fbi claimed to know nothing, yes, nothing about the trip and tonight the fbi and homeland security briefing lawmakers. congressman jason chase is on the house homeland security committee. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks, greta. >> can you clarify or do you know whether or not he mentioned going out of the united states? there's some confusion over what senator lindsay graham said and what the secretary said. >> i...